George Williams decoys
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George Williams decoys
George sent some pictures of his recent birds to post. Nice!! Question is George, what bird are we gonna carve together when I come down?
These decoys are great -
Argentina ducks
These decoys are great -
Argentina ducks
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that is on you--first trip may be just to get you over shellshock on using tools the left handed way--maybe get a head and body hacked out-are you up for a diver or puddler? The chiloes were just repaints of 60 flambeaus that are going to Argentina--Thirty of those drove me batty for a few days--Repainted all the backs once because of the white on black--They were fun, though--The buffies were hollow wood, and are now living in upstate new york.
The purpose of the dungeon visit is to facilitate some simpler and maybe more effivcient ways of doing stuff..
Bring something to trace patterns, if you want--Man, that alone could take an entire day!
The purpose of the dungeon visit is to facilitate some simpler and maybe more effivcient ways of doing stuff..
Bring something to trace patterns, if you want--Man, that alone could take an entire day!
Last edited by george w on Fri Feb 17, 2012 9:48 pm; edited 1 time in total (Reason for editing : add-on)
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george w wrote:that is on you--first trip may be just to get you over shellshock on using tools the left handed way--maybe get a head and body hacked out-are you up for a diver or puddler? The chiloes were just repaints of 60 flambeaus that are going to Argentina--Thirty of those drove me batty for a few days--Repainted all the backs once because of the white on black--They were fun, though--The buffies were hollow wood, and are now living in upstate new york.
The purpose of the dungeon visit is to facilitate some simpler and maybe more effivcient ways of doing stuff..
Bring something to trace patterns, if you want--Man, that alone could take an entire day!
You did a great job on those Chiloes! I'm more up to carving puddlers...for now anyway. When do you go to Argentina? We'll plan something for March.
Last edited by Davey Welsh on Sat Feb 18, 2012 12:39 am; edited 1 time in total
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How about a Gadwall when I come down George? I've been wanting to try one of them...tricky bird!
have specimens and patterns
guess we can grind out---Will be saner around here after the westlake thing----Chiloes will be off with 30 yellow billed sprig-first week in may. Be mindful, we will not finish in one trip--i am add and get bored--probably could get head and body done on first trip, i think.
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i have a dz of his mallards they are some sweet blocks-- got them for a steal--$25 buck each
paul rut- FNG
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Davey-
Give me some notice when you're traveling over to Delaware to visit George's shop and I'll make the trip up to join y'all (I live about 30-35 mins south of him). Always learn something new every time I sit down with G-dub.
Give me some notice when you're traveling over to Delaware to visit George's shop and I'll make the trip up to join y'all (I live about 30-35 mins south of him). Always learn something new every time I sit down with G-dub.
Ed Lewandowski- Amatuer Gunner
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Hey, out of curiousity, when were they made? At least one may have a date on the bottom.. This kinda lets me know where some things are now...paul rut wrote:i have a dz of his mallards they are some sweet blocks-- got them for a steal--$25 buck each
Ed, you haven't done a gaddie yet? Davie is for some unknown reason, leaning toward one of the decoy sob's!
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Nope... haven't tried a grey duck yet. Looks like a pain-in-the-arse to paint. I can carve one to bring up and then sit down with the brushes for a lesson.
Ed Lewandowski- Amatuer Gunner
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i think the grinding part may be the first trip down for him---Have specimens, and other than the subtlety of the scapulars--that cinnamon and greyish has made me say bad things--it is really no worse than a sprig--well, except for the #$^$#$% ticking on the head.
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Thats why I think a Gaddy is a good bird to carve. I have yet to do one, but I would like to carve a rig for myself.
Joel Huener carved this rig...absolutely stunning!
Joel Huener carved this rig...absolutely stunning!
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nice carvings---A ton more than this old fart would put into dekes---Always in a quandary as to why folks paint drake bills that way--If juvies, then there will be a lot of henny looking stuff going on--The drakes we have taken over the eons have always had black bills--Mi gusta the varied head postions!
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I wouldn't carve raised feathers on the Gadwalls, but I like the different head positions and I like his paint. I really don't think the paint he has is that complicated to do, but on a Gadwall its important. I've seen Gadwall decoys that are too light and I've seen them too dark. For what its worth, the Gadwalls I've been gunning have been very picky about the decoys they stool on. So I intend to get the paint right on those guys.
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Davey, years ago, one of my partners swore that gadwall could count the number of their relatives we had in the rig--We always isolated them and had at least 15 at one of the blinds we used---A few years back, after looking closely at the little buggers, i determined that the vermiculation was whitish on a blackish ground, which looks better than the obverse. I have not yet written up a reference schedule for them--Not too difficult, but mixing seems to be a bit of a bugger.
Make a note of the sound they make---Quite quiet--daah, dooh, daah dooh--Hens have a faint quack--Loud, aggressive calling will turn them off in a heartbeat---best to just keep silent.
Make a note of the sound they make---Quite quiet--daah, dooh, daah dooh--Hens have a faint quack--Loud, aggressive calling will turn them off in a heartbeat---best to just keep silent.
Last edited by george w on Sat Feb 25, 2012 9:13 pm; edited 1 time in total (Reason for editing : adding a thought)
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I agree George. I would paint Gadwalls with an almost black base, do small white feathers on the breast and white vermiculation on their side pockets and half their back. I've gotten pretty good at calling them too.
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ok guys, if you want to paint, then have a body carved, sealed and base coated--i prefer black, but whatever folls up your socks. We can go from there--While stuff is drying,, i can scare the heck out of Davey with a bandsaw demo.
Best time will be after westlake, or before. heheh
Best time will be after westlake, or before. heheh
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george w wrote:ok guys, if you want to paint, then have a body carved, sealed and base coated--i prefer black, but whatever folls up your socks. We can go from there--While stuff is drying,, i can scare the heck out of Davey with a bandsaw demo.
Best time will be after westlake, or before. heheh
I would actually prefer to carve one with you. I could appreciate learning something new about carving methods. Painting os something that I think just takes alot of practice.
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ok, Davey and Ed--we are going to butcher cork and wood--Ed..After sealing, you are allowed to return to the dungeon for paint!!
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I'm good with carving a Gadwall on my own, George. I might just make the run up to Dover to meet our friend from Jersey while you're "butchering" some wood/cork. I'll get my deke GAC'd and blacked so it's ready for a coat of paint whenever you are.
Ed Lewandowski- Amatuer Gunner
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Wouldn't dream of it! No need for 'em!
Ed Lewandowski- Amatuer Gunner
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My carving is pretty good. You'd be hard pressed to find any flat spots on any of my birds and I think my decoys portray realistic birds. I would still like to carve with an experienced carver to learn anything that maybe I'm missing or maybe learn a better way to do certain things. For one I'd like to improve on my heads. Plus I haven't made any Gadwall patterns yet, but I'd like to carve one of these with George. I think it would be a good learning experience!
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Man, count yourself Blessed, Davey! My stuff still has lumps, waves and other errata! I do, however, have a ZERN of head patterns, but only one body and tail pattern, which i modify as needed for various attitudes.
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