Sometimes you need to stop and be patient!

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Sometimes you need to stop and be patient!

Post  Davey Welsh on Fri Apr 20, 2012 8:59 am

I keep learning everytime I take Caly out for a training session and yesterday was no different.

Went out in the afternoon to do our usual drills for building a foundation for blind retrieves. I set up our pile about 75yrds out and attempted to run some pile work. I guess being couped up for a few days, Caly was more interested in blowing off steam. I line her up on the pile, send her and she goes way off to the left to investigate a piece of plastic blowing in the wind. Evil or Very Mad Call her back, line her up, send her again. This time she gets halfway and then slows to a walk. Like really????

Her work attitude was TERRIBLE yesterday. I got so pissed I was looking for a reason to give her a stern correction. I threw the collar remote on the ground and sat on a bucket. She brought the bumper back and sat in front of me and stared. I wanted to ring her neck! LOL! I cooled off for a bit and just walked away. She must have known I was pissed without me even saying anything. Came back 10 minutes later, and she did awesome on the pile work.

The point of this post is this - the most important thing that I have learned so far, is when things aren't going well with training, just stop, take a few minutes to cool off and let the dog have some space. Every dog is different, and while Caly can be a very hard working retriever, she does get bored sometimes doing the same drills. Its just part of her personality that I have to learn to deal with from time to time. She never quit in the duck boat last year, but I've noticed that she gets bored with training sometimes. Not like Deuce, who would chew your hand off for a bumper! Laughing

So, if you're dog isn't cooperating during a training session, don't get mad and take it out on them. Its very easy to want to do that, but I think loosing your temper will do more harm than good. Be patient, keep things exciting for them and work at their pace. Thats my .02$ of uneducated advice LOL!

As a side note, I watched Swampy run Duece on a 200+ yard water blind this week. Impressive!

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Same Here

Post  Russell Vrhovac on Fri Apr 20, 2012 4:24 pm

Davey,

I get the same results when I do too much repetition in training Sam, especially on pile work. If I have 5 bumpers in a pile ready for retrieval and she makes 3 or 4 then I get a pop or walk or other undesired action I will recall and hand toss a bumper to make it interesting again like it's a game and then send her for the last couple of pile retrieves. Maybe even stop the training all together and switch gears to some obedience or toss a tennis ball for fun. I am sure some folks will say to be a little harder and correct with the collar or make some casts but when all else fails I have to remember to keep it fun. You are right though that some dogs separate the blind and "training" and react differently when hunting. Sam does great in the field and some days (especially hot weather) she doesn't. Good luck with Caly. By the way I havent heard a countdown till the next duck season from anyone recently. I guess I need the torture.
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Re: Sometimes you need to stop and be patient!

Post  Rusty Black on Mon Apr 23, 2012 9:08 pm

I hear you brother....when I trained my dogs in the past...that was a hint to do something different or just let the trainning go for a week or so...I got a better responce from my dog and it never happened a second time...even now with Mag I'm doing different drills and sometimes no dummies or whistles either hand signals or commands from mouth.....Seems Mag never gets tired OB...she ll heel for a mile.....so sometimes its best to let the dog be a dog aslong. its knows your the big dog..... Very Happy
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Re: Sometimes you need to stop and be patient!

Post  Davey Welsh on Mon Apr 23, 2012 9:17 pm

I don't know much about training other than what I've learned from Dave and my experience with Caly. But being patient and not getting mad at the dog are two things I think have helped us.

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Re: Sometimes you need to stop and be patient!

Post  DonMintz on Fri May 04, 2012 8:13 pm

I don't probably train the same way as most others, I'm really catering to the needs of hunting the swift snake river here in Idaho. Patience is still key to training though. I've come to the conclusion that all retrievers learn at their own pace and when we understand what that pace is, it works out way easier. I started from scratch with our retriever 'Zip', he was a rescue dog, 3/4 chessie 1/4 lab who was 7 months old when we picked him up and had never even seen water other than in his bowl at that point. He was about to enter a whole new world with the duck hunting thing. It took a full year before he really got things figured out to any degree. What I learned is Zip is a 4 day dog. I'm banking on the idea that he really does want to do what I ask, pleasing me is his main objective, it just takes him 4 days to figure out what it is that I want. Whenever I introduced something new, the first day was a bust, second day he kind of had an idea, by the third day he pretty much knew what I wanted and by the 4th he was locked in to the repetition.

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