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Post  Ryan McGinty on Sun Feb 05, 2012 12:56 am

Well guys i have a broadbill boat i am trying to figure out if i want to build some type of blind on it this summer. i want to still be able to hunt 2 guys and a dog. Any ideas you guys have will help. Pictures would help even more!!! thanks guys

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Post  Davey Welsh on Tue Feb 07, 2012 2:18 am

Can you post some pics of your boat?

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Post  Russell Vrhovac on Tue Feb 07, 2012 9:18 am

Ryan,

I created a scissor style blind on my sneakboat. Basically, it is in two parts. The waterproof lower part that rises about 24" from the deck (which is really nice for running through choppy water and staying mostly dry. The upper part is a quick-drop style blind hinged midway at the top of the waterproof lower blind. I used 1X2" poplar with stainless hinges and it fits into the grassing straps already existing on the lower portion of the blind. The pictures explain a little better than I can in words. I used a ghillie blanket as the basis for camo to add bulk and generally grass it up with whatever I find where I am hunting. Having the ghillie lets me cutdown on grassing-up time and concentrate on getting that cup of coffee before legal shooting time. Also, I tie-down the portion of the blind I am facing away from so I won't accidentally "spring" the blind before I need it. I use clothes line clips to clip the front and back blind together and when I am ready to shoot all I need to do is just push a little on the blind and it lays down. I don't even have to stand to shoot out of it. Hope this helps.

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Post  Ray_J on Tue Feb 07, 2012 11:15 am

I am also re-building a Broadbill in the offseason and will welcome any ideas.

Russell, Great looking blind. I like your idea on the fold away portion of the blind. Any chance that you have close up photos of the hinge area?
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Post  Russell Vrhovac on Tue Feb 07, 2012 12:21 pm

Ray,

I can get you some pics of the fold away blind tomorrow. FYI, the whole blind collapses and stores in the sneakbox as the very top of the wooden folding blind has a singlebolt with Wingnut and washer. The blind cover, if you want one is rolled down and tied to the grassing rails on the deck for travel. The strength of the sneakbox is the layout capabilities and its seaworthieness but I can hunt two people out of my boat sitting on a bench seat set lengthwise in on the cockpit. It is pretty comfortable.

Ray_J wrote:I am also re-building a Broadbill in the offseason and will welcome any ideas.

Russell, Great looking blind. I like your idea on the fold away portion of the blind. Any chance that you have close up photos of the hinge area?
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Post  Ray_J on Tue Feb 07, 2012 1:25 pm

Thanks Russell, appreciate your help
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Post  Ryan McGinty on Tue Feb 07, 2012 11:25 pm

Davey no pics on computer yet but i will try to get some soon. Thanks for the help so far everybody pictures are the best way to get the head thinking!!

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Post  Davey Welsh on Wed Feb 08, 2012 12:01 am

I think the broadbill may be better suited for the type of blind that Russell posted. Thats a nice setup. I believe the broadbill is a bit too big and open for a sneakbox style dodger, although I should get up and take a pic of my buddy Kurt's modified sunfish. He built a custom blind on that thing that is like a combination sneakbox dodger and layout blind. It's badass.

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Post  John Mulcahy III on Wed Feb 08, 2012 3:26 am

Dave my buddy Jim just did a sunfish as well but i havent seen the outcome of it are they a poplar boat to covert to a sneakbox and how much hp do you think they can handle cuz he was askin wut i thought about it ... but my opinion is .... MAMA I WANNA GO FAST !!! lol
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Post  Davey Welsh on Wed Feb 08, 2012 11:51 am

John Mulcahy III wrote:Dave my buddy Jim just did a sunfish as well but i havent seen the outcome of it are they a poplar boat to covert to a sneakbox and how much hp do you think they can handle cuz he was askin wut i thought about it ... but my opinion is .... MAMA I WANNA GO FAST !!! lol

John, my buddy runs a 9.9 Merc 2 stroke on his sunfish conversion and that thing is fast as shit. I swear to God he does 25mph on the water with 9.9!! The Sunfish makes a FAST, LIGHTWEIGHT and STABLE duck boat.

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Post  Russell Vrhovac on Wed Feb 08, 2012 2:15 pm

Ray,

Here are the close up leg photos and what it looks like collapsed. Hope it helps.

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Post  Ryan McGinty on Wed Feb 08, 2012 10:12 pm

I was thinking of doing a pop up style blind with bimini hindges with a conduit frame or copper frame( cause i am a plumber with alot of 3/4 copper laying around) with either a plywood center or just do plastic deer fencing in the center. do you other guys with broadbills sit on a seat or right on the floor? i want to keep the blind as low as I can, but also want to be able to sit in it all day.

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Post  Russell Vrhovac on Thu Feb 09, 2012 9:29 am

Ryan,

If you are talking about making the sides with plywood I would think about two things. One is the the blind being top-heavy and safety. The other is that if the sides of the blind are a fixed height (enough to conceal up to your head) then you will have to stand up to shoot which again makes the boat top-heavy and unstable. I tried this the first time on my boat and quickly realized that to hide myself and not have to stand up to shoot I needed a blind that would "drop" when shooting time came. Your idea of conduit with deer fenceing fixed to it is good and you can weave in grass or whatever material you use.




Ryan McGinty wrote:I was thinking of doing a pop up style blind with bimini hindges with a conduit frame or copper frame( cause i am a plumber with alot of 3/4 copper laying around) with either a plywood center or just do plastic deer fencing in the center. do you other guys with broadbills sit on a seat or right on the floor? i want to keep the blind as low as I can, but also want to be able to sit in it all day.
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Post  Ray_J on Sat Feb 11, 2012 3:23 pm

With a couple nice days up here in the great white north, I have been able to work on my blind ideas a little. I used the framework from a ground blind that the material had worn out on and a couple pieces of bimini hardware I had laying around. The only cost so far has been the two lengths of conduit running bow to stern. (5.12)

The way I designed this, I can use it with the front dodger up alone or I can pin up the sides and rear with 4 pins. The rear mount used the existing holes in the deck. In theory, the sides will roll down and attach to grass rails while not in use and the rear section folds, rolls and will be easily stored in the boat

The height and width are not set in stone yet. The pictures are a little deceiving, making the blind look much bigger than it really is. Currently the height is about 24" from the deck and the cockpit opening is approx 24" by 70". I need to get inside the boat and figure out the best minimum height and width.

What is the height on the dodger on your BBSB and sneak boats? Any other thoughts for improvement?







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Post  Russell Vrhovac on Sat Feb 11, 2012 10:12 pm

Ray,
Thats a nice start to a good looking blind. I built my blind (the bottom portion) before I realized just how exposed my head and shoulders would be for dabblers. It is fine for divers and sea ducks but I needed a little extra hight for the more picky ducks. It would be pretty easy to sew up a pvc backed canvas to mount to that frame. Add in some grassing straps and you will have a nice and versitile blind. If it is a pretty "dry ride" on your boat, you might even get away with just using some netting with woven grass into it.

Ray_J wrote:With a couple nice days up here in the great white north, I have been able to work on my blind ideas a little. I used the framework from a ground blind that the material had worn out on and a couple pieces of bimini hardware I had laying around. The only cost so far has been the two lengths of conduit running bow to stern. (5.12)

The way I designed this, I can use it with the front dodger up alone or I can pin up the sides and rear with 4 pins. The rear mount used the existing holes in the deck. In theory, the sides will roll down and attach to grass rails while not in use and the rear section folds, rolls and will be easily stored in the boat

The height and width are not set in stone yet. The pictures are a little deceiving, making the blind look much bigger than it really is. Currently the height is about 24" from the deck and the cockpit opening is approx 24" by 70". I need to get inside the boat and figure out the best minimum height and width.

What is the height on the dodger on your BBSB and sneak boats? Any other thoughts for improvement?







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Post  Davey Welsh on Sat Feb 11, 2012 11:56 pm

Looking forward to seeing this blind done! Looks like a great start so far.

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nice

Post  Kevin A on Sun Feb 12, 2012 2:29 pm

Looks pretty good so far...

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Post  C Bow on Fri Jan 11, 2013 11:00 pm

What kind of material do you use for your blind and where do you get the aluminun tub and end connectors

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Post  J Townsend on Sun Jan 13, 2013 8:19 am

Hey Russel what kind of dog do you have? Just wondering? John
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Post  Russell Vrhovac on Sun Jan 13, 2013 8:30 am

John,

Sam is a Toller. Thats short for Nova Scotia Duck Tolling Retriever or NSDTR. Thanks for asking.

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Post  J Townsend on Sun Jan 13, 2013 8:37 am

Do you run him at field trials? John
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Post  Russell Vrhovac on Mon Jan 14, 2013 10:48 pm

Yes I have run her before but very limited. She did well and passed her tests at Started but I haven't taken her any farther. You won't find many tollers at field trials. If you are interested in one I can PM you her breeders contact info.

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Post  J Townsend on Tue Jan 15, 2013 8:20 am

I was just wondering. My club is being possibly being rented by a Tollers group to do a hunt test. John
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Post  Ryan McGinty on Tue Jan 22, 2013 1:28 am

Finally got around to building the blind. Not the best pics but this is before I grassed it all. [img][/img]

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Post  steiger68 on Sat Feb 02, 2013 2:36 pm

nice, can you post some more detail on how it hinges? Is that 3/4 copper tubing? Im looking to do the same if I pick up an AA Broadbill, wanna set it up like a southbay like you did.. Thanks, post up some more pics..

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